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opened 2018-10-19 17:17:42 +00:00 by cedewey · 15 comments
cedewey commented 2018-10-19 17:17:42 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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This could also be used for our metadata description. It should be potential client focused.

Current Version

We are Agaric, a web development collective eager to understand where you want to go with your web presence and to apply our knowledge and skills to get you there.

Todd's Version

Agaric is a web development company that seeks to harness the power of a hypha-like network of knowledge and technology to help our clients deliver genuine and meaningful online experiences that transform societies.

Find out how Agaric can help you gain power over your online technology.

Clayton's Version

We are Agaric, a worker-owner cooperative building websites and online tools using libre software that respects your freedom. We also provide training and consulting to strengthen the open web and help organizations get the most from their technology.

David's Version.

We do cool stuff. 😎

Micky's version.

We are Agaric, a worker-owned cooperative. We build websites and online tools using free/libre software that also respects your freedoms. We provide training and consultation to strengthen the collaborative web and help organizations get the most from their technology.

This could also be used for our metadata description. It should be potential client focused. ## Current Version We are Agaric, a web development collective eager to understand where you want to go with your web presence and to apply our knowledge and skills to get you there. ## Todd's Version Agaric is a web development company that seeks to harness the power of a hypha-like network of knowledge and technology to help our clients deliver genuine and meaningful online experiences that transform societies. Find out how Agaric can help you gain power over your online technology. ## Clayton's Version We are Agaric, a worker-owner cooperative building websites and online tools using libre software that respects your freedom. We also provide training and consulting to strengthen the open web and help organizations get the most from their technology. ## David's Version. We do cool stuff. 😎 ## Micky's version. We are Agaric, a worker-owned cooperative. We build websites and online tools using free/libre software that also respects your freedoms. We provide training and consultation to strengthen the collaborative web and help organizations get the most from their technology.
cedewey commented 2018-10-19 17:18:18 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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Assigning to @mlncn as he's been most vocal about this text, but @FreeScholar @gnuget @dinarcon @wolcen please speak up if you have thoughts! See my proposed version in the description.

Assigning to @mlncn as he's been most vocal about this text, but @FreeScholar @gnuget @dinarcon @wolcen please speak up if you have thoughts! See my proposed version in the description.
cedewey commented 2018-10-19 17:29:12 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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Here's a different version that would have continuity with "Building the open web" as our slogan

When the web is open, we can connect directly with one another, using libre software we can trust. We build websites and other tools to help people use the open web to do their best work. Organized as a worker-owner cooperative, we value people's needs over profit and cooperation over competition.

Here's a different version that would have continuity with "Building the open web" as our slogan When the web is open, we can connect directly with one another, using libre software we can trust. We build websites and other tools to help people use the open web to do their best work. Organized as a worker-owner cooperative, we value people's needs over profit and cooperation over competition.
gnuget commented 2018-10-19 17:39:23 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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changed the description

changed the description
gnuget commented 2018-10-19 17:46:13 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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What about this mix between the @cedewey and @tlinkner :

Agaric is a web development cooperative that builds websites using Free Software , This allows to keep the web open and free. We also provide training and consulting to strengthen the open web and help organizations get the most from their technology.

What about this mix between the @cedewey and @tlinkner : >Agaric is a web development cooperative that builds websites using [Free Software ](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html), This allows to keep the web open and free. We also provide training and consulting to strengthen the open web and help organizations get the most from their technology.
cedewey commented 2018-10-19 18:28:42 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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@gnuget I like that! I made a small change -

Agaric is a web development cooperative that builds websites using Free Software, helping keep the web open and free. We also provide training and consulting to strengthen the open web and help organizations get the most from their technology.

@gnuget I like that! I made a small change - > Agaric is a web development cooperative that builds websites using [Free Software](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html), helping keep the web open and free. We also provide training and consulting to strengthen the open web and help organizations get the most from their technology.
gnuget commented 2018-10-19 18:41:59 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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Looks great to me.

Looks great to me.
FreeScholar commented 2018-10-24 20:20:04 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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Small edits on your texts ---

We are Agaric, a worker-owned cooperative. We build websites and online tools using free/libre software that also respects your freedoms. We provide training and consultation to strengthen the collaborative web and help organizations get the most from their technology.

Small edits on your texts --- We are Agaric, a worker-owned cooperative. We build websites and online tools using free/libre software that also respects your freedoms. We provide training and consultation to strengthen the collaborative web and help organizations get the most from their technology.
mlncn commented 2018-10-28 01:57:51 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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@FreeScholar Could you draft a short page on the meaning of free software? i would rather not link off to GNU nor FSF for this directly; the page linked in David and Clayton's examples above link to a page that doesn't get to the point, is long, and not very approachable.

@FreeScholar Could you draft a short page on the meaning of free software? i would rather not link off to GNU nor FSF for this directly; the page linked in David and Clayton's examples above link to a page that doesn't get to the point, is long, and not very approachable.
FreeScholar commented 2018-10-28 04:28:32 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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@mlncn First draft (needs a good ending):

Free Software and Open Source - what is the difference? The code is basically the same. The license may not be the same. The politics are different. There are various versions of licensing that allow computer code to be locked down or compiled with proprietary software and the 'Terms of Use' forbid any modification by you, the user, which is not aligned with the political message behind the term "Free Software" - sharing. An example would be Android, which is a modified version of GNU/Linux that the user cannot modify due to the licensing.

The term "Free" is usually associated with cost. Free software can be sold, for profit, it is not by inception, "Gratis", so the new term of "Libre" has been adopted to give a more accurate message. When we say Free/Libre Software, we are referring to software that respects the users rights by giving them the 4 essential freedoms:

The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). 
The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2).
The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3).

One cannot speak of Free Software without mentioning or quoting Richard Stallman, the founder and President of the Free Software Foundation and founder of the Free Software Movement. RMS (as he is known) has stated "Open source is a development methodology; free software is a social movement. For the free software movement, free software is an ethical imperative, essential respect for the users' freedom. By contrast, the philosophy of open source considers issues in terms of how to make software “better”—in a practical sense only. Most discussion of “open source” pays no attention to right and wrong, only to popularity and success.
For the free software movement, however, nonfree software is a social problem, and the solution is to stop using it and move to free software."

@mlncn First draft (needs a good ending): Free Software and Open Source - what is the difference? The code is basically the same. The license may not be the same. The politics are different. There are various versions of licensing that allow computer code to be locked down or compiled with proprietary software and the 'Terms of Use' forbid any modification by you, the user, which is not aligned with the political message behind the term "Free Software" - sharing. An example would be Android, which is a modified version of GNU/Linux that the user cannot modify due to the licensing. The term "Free" is usually associated with cost. Free software can be sold, for profit, it is not by inception, "Gratis", so the new term of "Libre" has been adopted to give a more accurate message. When we say Free/Libre Software, we are referring to software that respects the users rights by giving them the 4 essential freedoms: The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0). The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2). The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). One cannot speak of Free Software without mentioning or quoting Richard Stallman, the founder and President of the Free Software Foundation and founder of the Free Software Movement. RMS (as he is known) has stated "Open source is a development methodology; free software is a social movement. For the free software movement, free software is an ethical imperative, essential respect for the users' freedom. By contrast, the philosophy of open source considers issues in terms of how to make software “better”—in a practical sense only. Most discussion of “open source” pays no attention to right and wrong, only to popularity and success. For the free software movement, however, nonfree software is a social problem, and the solution is to stop using it and move to free software."
cedewey commented 2018-10-30 22:57:36 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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At the hotel room in BADCamp @dinarcon @mlncn and myself felt like the statement needs to be more concise. Here's what I think we came up with (was having connectivity issues at the time so this off of memory),

We are Agaric, a worker-owned cooperative. We build websites and online tools that respects your freedom. We provide training and consultation to strengthen the open web.

The open web would change depending on the slogan we settle on. #95

I also think it needs to end with a call to action, such as "Learn more about our services."

At the hotel room in BADCamp @dinarcon @mlncn and myself felt like the statement needs to be more concise. Here's what I think we came up with (was having connectivity issues at the time so this off of memory), > We are Agaric, a worker-owned cooperative. We build websites and online tools that respects your freedom. We provide training and consultation to strengthen the open web. The open web would change depending on the slogan we settle on. #95 I also think it needs to end with a call to action, such as "Learn more about our services."
cedewey commented 2018-10-30 22:57:41 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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FreeScholar commented 2018-10-31 00:30:20 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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cedewey commented 2018-11-02 16:30:53 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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We agreed in our meeting today that it will be,

We are Agaric, a worker-owned cooperative. We build websites and online tools that respect your freedom. We provide training and consultation to meet your goals.

[Find out how Agaric can help you gain power over your online technology.] (links to services page)

We agreed in our meeting today that it will be, > We are Agaric, a worker-owned cooperative. We build websites and online tools that respect your freedom. We provide training and consultation to meet your goals. > > [Find out how Agaric can help you gain power over your online technology.] (links to services page)
cedewey commented 2018-11-02 16:32:54 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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mlncn commented 2019-01-11 14:39:01 +00:00 (Migrated from gitlab.com)
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My pitch:

Agaric develops websites using software that protects your freedoms and unlocks

[... just closing tabs ...]

My pitch: Agaric develops websites using software that protects your freedoms and unlocks [... just closing tabs ...]
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